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IM Academy - Are they/their "Affiliates" breaking FINRA regulations on Communications with the Public?

For the uninitiated, IM Academy, formerly iMarketsLive, is an MLM whose scheme centers around a SaaS model for their forex (foreign exchange) trading software. I'm still early in the research, but I think the way they get around the legal definition of a pyramid scheme is by providing referral commissions to their affiliates, who are the ones ultimately posting about their purported 'success' and the opportunities they want to share with their friends and families and doing the recruiting.
Now, perhaps save for the ballsier MLM brands involved in health and wellness products, where running afoul of the FDA is the primary concern (and having worked as someone designing junk mail for a health food/grocery store [the owner of which was decidedly ANTI MLM, thank apollo] for a decade, I can tell you that the magic "These statements have not been endorsed by the FDA. These products are not meant to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease." is almost an impervious shield, if you're not a total sketchman and literally saying those things in the ad copy for the product), the SEC and the FTC are the regulatory bodies at play; and FINRA, I believe, is the US regulatory body overseeing forex, specifically.
I dig economics. I like listening to economics shows. I've heard plenty of ads for forex trading solutions on the radio, and one constant is the inclusion at the end of the ad of a disclaimer saying, more or less, that 'Forex trading carries substantial risk and consumers should not trade more than what they can afford to lose', or something along those lines. Of course, the folks peddling IM Academy on facebook are just posting about the opportunity to make money trading forex.
That got me thinking -- if the company is paying these guys commissions on referrals for the software, they are effectively communicating to the public. FINRA has some very specific guidelines on this (emphasis mine):
Communications with the Public
NASD Rule 2210, applicable to all FINRA members, prohibits firms from making any false, exaggerated, unwarranted or misleading statement or claim in any communication with the public. Rule 2210 is not limited to a broker-dealer's securities and investment banking business. A firm's forex-related communications—whether the firm is acting as a dealer or is soliciting forex business for a dealer—must be fair and balanced and based on principles of fair dealing and good faith, and firms must provide a sound basis for evaluating the facts regarding both the forex market generally, as well as the customers' specific transactions. These obligations may not be waived or met by disclaimer.
New FINRA member firms that engage in forex-related activities must file their advertisements with FINRA. Rule 2210 requires any firm that has not previously filed advertisements with FINRA to file all of its advertisements at least 10 days prior to first use; this filing requirement continues for one year from the first submission. Rule 2210's internal approval, filing requirements and recording-keeping provisions also apply to forex-related communications. The rule requires that a registered principal give written approval of all advertisements and sales literature prior to use.
Rule 2210 prohibits predictions or projections of performance, or the implication that past performance will recur. Communications used by firms in connection with retail forex activities may not tout future returns. The rule prohibits the omission of material facts or qualifications that would cause a communication to be misleading. Accordingly, firms' communications must adequately disclose the risks associated with forex trading, including the risks of highly leveraged trading. Firms must also make sure that their communications with the public are not misleading regarding, among other things:
Am I onto something here? Even if IM Academy seems to skirt around the traditional definition of a pyramid scheme, their affiliates are breaking the regulations the company, at least, is obligated to adhere to.
This IM Academy scheme specifically seems particularly predatory. I can see a vast gulf between being out a few hundred bucks on shitty inventory you'll never push and forex leverages, which can sometimes mean you lose more than you put in.
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Untold Truths About IM Mastery Academy Pyramid Scheme Rumors

Untold Truths About IM Mastery Academy Pyramid Scheme Rumors
Here're some of the highlights in my unbiased review on IM Mastery Academy - An MLM company that sells Forex trading courses.
I hope this info can keep every beginneFX lovers fully-informed before joining their program.
Please note, I am not a member or an affiliate for IM Mastery Academy.
This review is based on research and information available online in the public domain.
Any recommendation and conclusions are only opinions and may not apply to all persons or situations.
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#1: What Is IM Mastery Academy (IMMA)?
IM Mastery Academy is a multi-level marketing (MLM) company solely in the Forex trading niche.
They offer a range of forex trading courses, tools, and resources that help beginners develop trading strategies and show them real-time trade ideas.

#2: How Big is The Income Potential Of IMMA?
2018 IMMA income disclosure
Here're some of the key points from their 2018 income disclosure:
  • 96.3% of the members earned less than $1,367 on average in 2018.
  • 45,924 of the 52,706 never made it past the entry rank of ‘IBO’.
  • 40.25% of all IBO’s earned nothing from IM Mastery Academy.
  • Only 20,107 IBO’s earned any income at the entry rank. The remaining 25,817 earned absolutely nothing.
  • Only 1 in 909 IBO’s earn a full-time income from IM Mastery Academy.
Can you see how difficult it is to make a decent living as an IBO within the IMMA?
This isn’t surprising because such "pyramid-shaped earning" is happening in most MLM companies.

#3: Is It A Pyramid Scheme? If they aren't, do I recommend their business opportunity?
Technically, I can say that IM Mastery Academy is not a pyramid scheme because they’ve actual services for associates to sell, and they have a compensation plan in place.
However, you might rather choose Forex trading to make money than relying on their MLM program because of the low earning potential.
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If you wish to learn more about the business, you can read the full review by clicking the link below. I hope this helps.
👉 https://lifegoalfinisher.com/im-mastery-academy-pyramid-scheme/

Untold Truths About IM Mastery Academy Pyramid Scheme Rumors
👉 https://lifegoalfinisher.com/im-mastery-academy-pyramid-scheme/
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How do I help a friend early-on?

So my friend recently joined something called "IM Academy" a.k.a "Walking ATMs". He paid £200 as an entry fee then it's £150/month. If you manage to recruit two paying individuals then you do not need to pay the monthly fee. If you recruit three or more people then you start getting weekly residuals based on how many people you've recruited. For instance, for 3 people recruited is a weekly $37.50; for 12 people it's $150 a week.
He wanted to call me for a 'business opportunity'. First he explained that once you pay the entry-fee, you are provided with a forex course (which I wasn't interested in but I didn't feel like it was a scam), then he mentioned how the recruitment process works (explained above) and that's when alarm bells started ringing.
I understand that IM Academy may be an MLM company rather than a pyramid scheme but it still annoys me how my friend is paying for something that he doesn't need to pay for because if he really wanted to become a full-time forex trader then university is the right path (and he is not going to uni) OR to trade forex on-the-side (which doesn't really work either because you always need to be studying charts) you need to learn techniques, how to read graphs and other basic information which can all be found on the internet for free (YouTube, reddit etc)
A friend and I had an argument with him and he compared IM Academy to a full-time job and how "You are never going to be the CEO". He doesn't understand that a pyramid scheme works like this.
It's almost like he's in denial about a company where the people above him make money off him just by him paying his monthly-fee. What should I do?

TL;DR: friend joined a pyramid scheme, is in denial and I wanna help him.
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Need help to argue against Auvoria Prime

First, the backstory:
Today I got one of those standard "make a passive income with this risk-free investment" messages from a good friend of mine. As we all know usually there is little hope for those "friends", but this one is actually a good person and should be too smart to become a hun, so I tried arguing with her.
She, being as smart as usual, did recognize the truth in my arguments, especially as I backed them up with some credible sources and has reconsidered her postition (rare, I know, that's why I have hope).
She then talked to some of her "higher-ups" (we all know the correct term would be "scammers" but oh well) and they told her, that they have all had "amazing experiences" with Auvorian Prime.
For anyone who doesn't recognize the name, Auvorion Prime is a company that sells monthly subscriptions to their magical, risk-free forex trading bot. Their founder was also involved in a couple different MLMs before that, for example OneCoin. Other than that it's the usual commission based MLM we all know and love. It's also illegal to advertise for in the US.

Now the important part:
She has actually provided me the opportunity to talk to her higher-ups about this company on a direct call. Obviously I want to absolutely obliterate them, but I need help with preparing arguments to argue against them. Would you please help me with my research? I'd also be interested in common strategies on how they make their buisness model sound legitimate and how to defend against those. It would also be important to find credible sources for my claims, as I think the blog posts I found after googling for a while are not first-hand sources and won't hold up in a real discussion.
I post this here, as I strongly trust, that you are the best experts on the internet on fighting MLMs and their predatory practises and I am sure, that you will be able to greatly help me on this endeavour.
Edit: When I said „higher-ups“ I literally mean the second highest level. The guy I’d be talking to knows the founder of Auvoria Prime personally.
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Starting a workgroup to tackle shady MLMs and "scam" courses

Hi all

Besiege here. After seeing a couple of reddit posts on shady MLM, pyramid schemes and "scam" courses, I was wondering if any of the sg redditors here would be interested to start a workgroup to better address these issues (it can be online!). There has been a sizable movement by the government to catch outright scams ( https://www.scamalert.sg/ ), but the same cannot be said for shady MLMs/"scam" courses. If there is one which I am not aware of, let me know and I will delete this post.
Personally, I feel indignant whenever I hear of individuals/groups taking advantage of vulnerable populations in order to make a quick buck off them. Worse, I shudder when I hear these scummy people justify their actions by arguing they are providing opportunities for others to become a better version of themselves. Just a few quick points to get terminologies out of the way:

Some ideas right off the top of my head:
  1. Maintaining a list of potentially shady companies/courses/individuals to avoid (on a website/gdoc/ singapore wiki page)
  2. Creating a checklist for people to suss out shady schemes (e.g. no mention of the company's name, constant avoidance of business model, no mention of the product being sold, some mentor figure who changed lives)
  3. Written articles to detail modus operandi of various pyramid/"scam" course schemes (e.g. like the rice media article on ICS)
  4. Have an open channel for people to talk about any potential illegal MLM experiences; We will listen and ask guiding questions to suss out if the experience was indeed MLM (by notafairylight)

If you are interested to join this workgroup or have better ideas, do pm me or post it in the comments. I am looking at maybe 5-6 people for a start, who are willing to carve out some of their personal time for this initiative.
Also, if you have knowledge and skills you think which can be useful for this initiative, do sound out! E.g. writing, legal, content creation, intimate knowledge of various pyramid schemes, programming, etc. I am currently working as a data-analyst btw!

EDIT: Thanks for the awesome response guys! I will create a separate chat group for all those who have indicated interest to help; I will send u the chat group link via PM by tomorrow. It would be great if someone could think of a catchy group name.


EDIT2: Hi, I have sent out the group links. If I missed out anyone, please sound out via pm!

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How to get started in Forex - A comprehensive guide for newbies

Almost every day people come to this subreddit asking the same basic questions over and over again. I've put this guide together to point you in the right direction and help you get started on your forex journey.

A quick background on me before you ask: My name is Bob, I'm based out of western Canada. I started my forex journey back in January 2018 and am still learning. However I am trading live, not on demo accounts. I also code my own EA's. I not certified, licensed, insured, or even remotely qualified as a professional in the finance industry. Nothing I say constitutes financial advice. Take what I'm saying with a grain of salt, but everything I've outlined below is a synopsis of some tough lessons I've learned over the last year of being in this business.

LET'S GET SOME UNPLEASANTNESS OUT OF THE WAY

I'm going to call you stupid. I'm also going to call you dumb. I'm going to call you many other things. I do this because odds are, you are stupid, foolish,and just asking to have your money taken away. Welcome to the 95% of retail traders. Perhaps uneducated or uninformed are better phrases, but I've never been a big proponent of being politically correct.

Want to get out of the 95% and join the 5% of us who actually make money doing this? Put your grown up pants on, buck up, and don't give me any of this pc "This is hurting my feelings so I'm not going to listen to you" bullshit that the world has been moving towards.

Let's rip the bandage off quickly on this point - the world does not give a fuck about you. At one point maybe it did, it was this amazing vision nicknamed the American Dream. It died an agonizing, horrible death at the hand of capitalists and entrepreneurs. The world today revolves around money. Your money, my money, everybody's money. People want to take your money to add it to theirs. They don't give a fuck if it forces you out on the street and your family has to live in cardboard box. The world just stopped caring in general. It sucks, but it's the way the world works now. Welcome to the new world order. It's called Capitalism.

And here comes the next hard truth that you will need to accept - Forex is a cruel bitch of a mistress. She will hurt you. She will torment you. She will give you nightmares. She will keep you awake at night. And then she will tease you with a glimmer of hope to lure you into a false sense of security before she then guts you like a fish and shows you what your insides look like. This statement applies to all trading markets - they are cruel, ruthless, and not for the weak minded.

The sooner you accept these truths, the sooner you will become profitable. Don't accept it? That's fine. Don't bother reading any further. If I've offended you I don't give a fuck. You can run back home and hide under your bed. The world doesn't care and neither do I.

For what it's worth - I am not normally an major condescending asshole like the above paragraphs would suggest. In fact, if you look through my posts on this subreddit you will see I am actually quite helpful most of the time to many people who come here. But I need you to really understand that Forex is not for most people. It will make you cry. And if the markets themselves don't do it, the people in the markets will.

LESSON 1 - LEARN THE BASICS

Save yourself and everybody here a bunch of time - learn the basics of forex. You can learn the basics for free - BabyPips has one of the best free courses online which explains what exactly forex is, how it works, different strategies and methods of how to approach trading, and many other amazing topics.

You can access the BabyPips course by clicking this link: https://www.babypips.com/learn/forex

Do EVERY course in the School of Pipsology. It's free, it's comprehensive, and it will save you from a lot of trouble. It also has the added benefit of preventing you from looking foolish and uneducated when you come here asking for help if you already know this stuff.

If you still have questions about how forex works, please see the FREE RESOURCES links on the /Forex FAQ which can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/Forex/wiki/index

Quiz Time
Answer these questions truthfully to yourself:

-What is the difference between a market order, a stop order, and a limit order?
-How do you draw a support/resistance line? (Demonstrate it to yourself)
-What is the difference between MACD, RSI, and Stochastic indicators?
-What is fundamental analysis and how does it differ from technical analysis and price action trading?
-True or False: It's better to have a broker who gives you 500:1 margin instead of 50:1 margin. Be able to justify your reasoning.

If you don't know to answer to any of these questions, then you aren't ready to move on. Go back to the School of Pipsology linked above and do it all again.

If you can answer these questions without having to refer to any kind of reference then congratulations, you are ready to move past being a forex newbie and are ready to dive into the wonderful world of currency trading! Move onto Lesson 2 below.

LESSON 2 - RANDOM STRANGERS ARE NOT GOING TO HELP YOU GET RICH IN FOREX

This may come as a bit of a shock to you, but that random stranger on instagram who is posting about how he is killing it on forex is not trying to insprire you to greatness. He's also not trying to help you. He's also not trying to teach you how to attain financial freedom.

99.99999% of people posting about wanting to help you become rich in forex are LYING TO YOU.

Why would such nice, polite people do such a thing? Because THEY ARE TRYING TO PROFIT FROM YOUR STUPIDITY.

Plain and simple. Here's just a few ways these "experts" and "gurus" profit from you:


These are just a few examples. The reality is that very few people make it big in forex or any kind of trading. If somebody is trying to sell you the dream, they are essentially a magician - making you look the other way while they snatch your wallet and clean you out.

Additionally, on the topic of fund managers - legitimate fund managers will be certified, licensed, and insured. Ask them for proof of those 3 things. What they typically look like are:

If you are talking to a fund manager and they are insisting they have all of these, get a copy of their verification documents and lookup their licenses on the directories of the issuers to verify they are valid. If they are, then at least you are talking to somebody who seems to have their shit together and is doing investment management and trading as a professional and you are at least partially protected when the shit hits the fan.


LESSON 3 - UNDERSTAND YOUR RISK

Many people jump into Forex, drop $2000 into a broker account and start trading 1 lot orders because they signed up with a broker thinking they will get rich because they were given 500:1 margin and can risk it all on each trade. Worst-case scenario you lose your account, best case scenario you become a millionaire very quickly. Seems like a pretty good gamble right? You are dead wrong.

As a new trader, you should never risk more than 1% of your account balance on a trade. If you have some experience and are confident and doing well, then it's perfectly natural to risk 2-3% of your account per trade. Anybody who risks more than 4-5% of their account on a single trade deserves to blow their account. At that point you aren't trading, you are gambling. Don't pretend you are a trader when really you are just putting everything on red and hoping the roulette ball lands in the right spot. It's stupid and reckless and going to screw you very quickly.

Let's do some math here:

You put $2,000 into your trading account.
Risking 1% means you are willing to lose $20 per trade. That means you are going to be trading micro lots, or 0.01 lots most likely ($0.10/pip). At that level you can have a trade stop loss at -200 pips and only lose $20. It's the best starting point for anybody. Additionally, if you SL 20 trades in a row you are only down $200 (or 10% of your account) which isn't that difficult to recover from.
Risking 3% means you are willing to lose $60 per trade. You could do mini lots at this point, which is 0.1 lots (or $1/pip). Let's say you SL on 20 trades in a row. You've just lost $1,200 or 60% of your account. Even veteran traders will go through periods of repeat SL'ing, you are not a special snowflake and are not immune to periods of major drawdown.
Risking 5% means you are willing to lose $100 per trade. SL 20 trades in a row, your account is blown. As Red Foreman would call it - Good job dumbass.

Never risk more than 1% of your account on any trade until you can show that you are either consistently breaking even or making a profit. By consistently, I mean 200 trades minimum. You do 200 trades over a period of time and either break-even or make a profit, then you should be alright to increase your risk.

Unfortunately, this is where many retail traders get greedy and blow it. They will do 10 trades and hit their profit target on 9 of them. They will start seeing huge piles of money in their future and get greedy. They will start taking more risk on their trades than their account can handle.

200 trades of break-even or profitable performance risking 1% per trade. Don't even think about increasing your risk tolerance until you do it. When you get to this point, increase you risk to 2%. Do 1,000 trades at this level and show break-even or profit. If you blow your account, go back down to 1% until you can figure out what the hell you did differently or wrong, fix your strategy, and try again.

Once you clear 1,000 trades at 2%, it's really up to you if you want to increase your risk. I don't recommend it. Even 2% is bordering on gambling to be honest.


LESSON 4 - THE 500 PIP DRAWDOWN RULE

This is a rule I created for myself and it's a great way to help protect your account from blowing.

Sometimes the market goes insane. Like really insane. Insane to the point that your broker can't keep up and they can't hold your orders to the SL and TP levels you specified. They will try, but during a flash crash like we had at the start of January 2019 the rules can sometimes go flying out the window on account of the trading servers being unable to keep up with all the shit that's hitting the fan.

Because of this I live by a rule I call the 500 Pip Drawdown Rule and it's really quite simple - Have enough funds in your account to cover a 500 pip drawdown on your largest open trade. I don't care if you set a SL of -50 pips. During a flash crash that shit sometimes just breaks.

So let's use an example - you open a 0.1 lot short order on USDCAD and set the SL to 50 pips (so you'd only lose $50 if you hit stoploss). An hour later Trump makes some absurd announcement which causes a massive fundamental event on the market. A flash crash happens and over the course of the next few minutes USDCAD spikes up 500 pips, your broker is struggling to keep shit under control and your order slips through the cracks. By the time your broker is able to clear the backlog of orders and activity, your order closes out at 500 pips in the red. You just lost $500 when you intended initially to only risk $50.

It gets kinda scary if you are dealing with whole lot orders. A single order with a 500 pip drawdown is $5,000 gone in an instant. That will decimate many trader accounts.

Remember my statements above about Forex being a cruel bitch of a mistress? I wasn't kidding.

Granted - the above scenario is very rare to actually happen. But glitches to happen from time to time. Broker servers go offline. Weird shit happens which sets off a fundamental shift. Lots of stuff can break your account very quickly if you aren't using proper risk management.


LESSON 5 - UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT TRADING METHODOLOGIES

Generally speaking, there are 3 trading methodologies that traders employ. It's important to figure out what method you intend to use before asking for help. Each has their pros and cons, and you can combine them in a somewhat hybrid methodology but that introduces challenges as well.

In a nutshell:

Now you may be thinking that you want to be a a price action trader - you should still learn the principles and concepts behind TA and FA. Same if you are planning to be a technical trader - you should learn about price action and fundamental analysis. More knowledge is better, always.

With regards to technical analysis, you need to really understand what the different indicators are tell you. It's very easy to misinterpret what an indicator is telling you, which causes you to make a bad trade and lose money. It's also important to understand that every indicator can be tuned to your personal preferences.

You might find, for example, that using Bollinger Bands with the normal 20 period SMA close, 2 standard deviation is not effective for how you look at the chart, but changing that to say a 20 period EMA average price, 1 standard deviation bollinger band indicator could give you significantly more insight.


LESSON 6 - TIMEFRAMES MATTER

Understanding the differences in which timeframes you trade on will make or break your chosen strategy. Some strategies work really well on Daily timeframes (i.e. Ichimoku) but they fall flat on their face if you use them on 1H timeframes, for example.

There is no right or wrong answer on what timeframe is best to trade on. Generally speaking however, there are 2 things to consider:


If you are a total newbie to forex, I suggest you don't trade on anything shorter than the 1H timeframe when you are first learning. Trading on higher timeframes tends to be much more forgiving and profitable per trade. Scalping is a delicate art and requires finesse and can be very challenging when you are first starting out.


LESSON 7 - AUTOBOTS...ROLL OUT!

Yeah...I'm a geek and grew up with the Transformers franchise decades before Michael Bay came along. Deal with it.

Forex bots are called EA's (Expert Advisors). They can be wonderous and devastating at the same time. /Forex is not really the best place to get help with them. That is what /algotrading is useful for. However some of us that lurk on /Forex code EA's and will try to assist when we can.

Anybody can learn to code an EA. But just like how 95% of retail traders fail, I would estimate the same is true for forex bots. Either the strategy doesn't work, the code is buggy, or many other reasons can cause EA's to fail. Because EA's can often times run up hundreds of orders in a very quick period of time, it's critical that you test them repeatedly before letting them lose on a live trading account so they don't blow your account to pieces. You have been warned.

If you want to learn how to code an EA, I suggest you start with MQL. It's a programming language which can be directly interpretted by Meta Trader. The Meta Trader terminal client even gives you a built in IDE for coding EA's in MQL. The downside is it can be buggy and glitchy and caused many frustrating hours of work to figure out what is wrong.

If you don't want to learn MQL, you can code an EA up in just about any programming language. Python is really popular for forex bots for some reason. But that doesn't mean you couldn't do it in something like C++ or Java or hell even something more unusual like JQuery if you really wanted.

I'm not going to get into the finer details of how to code EA's, there are some amazing guides out there. Just be careful with them. They can be your best friend and at the same time also your worst enemy when it comes to forex.

One final note on EA's - don't buy them. Ever. Let me put this into perspective - I create an EA which is literally producing money for me automatically 24/5. If it really is a good EA which is profitable, there is no way in hell I'm selling it. I'm keeping it to myself to make a fortune off of. EA's that are for sale will not work, will blow your account, and the developer who coded it will tell you that's too darn bad but no refunds. Don't ever buy an EA from anybody.

LESSON 8 - BRING ON THE HATERS

You are going to find that this subreddit is frequented by trolls. Some of them will get really nasty. Some of them will threaten you. Some of them will just make you miserable. It's the price you pay for admission to the /Forex club.

If you can't handle it, then I suggest you don't post here. Find a more newbie-friendly site. It sucks, but it's reality.

We often refer to trolls on this subreddit as shitcunts. That's your word of the day. Learn it, love it. Shitcunts.


YOU MADE IT, WELCOME TO FOREX!

If you've made it through all of the above and aren't cringing or getting scared, then welcome aboard the forex train! You will fit in nicely here. Ask your questions and the non-shitcunts of our little corner of reddit will try to help you.

Assuming this post doesn't get nuked and I don't get banned for it, I'll add more lessons to this post over time. Lessons I intend to add in the future:
If there is something else you feel should be included please drop a comment and I'll add it to the above list of pending topics.

Cheers,

Bob



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Is Karatbit and Karatbars a scam?

On Tuesday 16th July, just a few weeks ago I was invited to attend a Karatbit, Karatbars/Karatbank presentation. The presentation was touting everything including a blockchain mobile phone. Someone had approached me over the weekend to investigate an investment, they had made with Karatbit/Karatbars. I attended the presentation with some research which, to be honest, was not that favourable to the company but nevertheless still went with an open mind.
KaratBank, a Singapore-based financial organization, has propelled another digital currency that it claims is bound to real physical gold. Is this a progressive thought – or a trick?
KaratBank, an organization located in Singapore, has quite recently declared the dispatch of KaratBank Coins (KBC), another digital currency it said is attached to gold. Be that as it may, not just the cost of gold, as different monetary forms — to real bits of gold: they're embedded in plastic cards or banknotes. In any event, that is the way it appears upon first sight.
KaratBank is a sister company of KaratBars International, located in Germany. KaratBars really sells gold in exceptionally small quantities (like 0.1g to 1g bullions), inserted into plastic cards (Karatbars) or money like notes (CashGold). The notes are famously overpriced: back when 1 gram of gold was $40, the 1g CashGold note cost $65.
As per KaratBank whitepaper, 10,000 KBC can be traded for 0.1g CashGold notes.
The initial coin offering kicked off earlier this year and proceeded until March 21, with the ICO starting March 22 (1 KBC = $0.05), Coin Telegraph reports.
Be that as it may, KaratBars International as an organization is emphatically connected with scams. A basic search for KaratBars on Google returns three connections with the word "scam" in them on the first page. KaratBars was prohibited in Canada in 2014 over an Autorité des marchés agents (AMF) with a Scam warning.
The Canadian government found that KaratBars executes some kind of multi-layered marketing (MLM), or "pyramid" scheme organisation that urged individuals to get new recruits and profit from their sales, promising a return of $15,000 to $136,000 every month.
In any case, Is KaratBank is a different story? All things considered, yes and no. Upon a more intensive look at the organization's whitepaper, one finds the following:
"United States of America citizens, residents (tax or otherwise) or green card holders, as well as residents of Canada, the People's Republic of China or the Republic of Singapore, are not qualified to partake in the KaratBank ICO."
As indicated by the Behind MLM site, the explanation behind this may lie in the way that those nations have actualized strict regulation on ICOs, and KaratBank does not have any desire to have anything to do with them.
"ICOs are not unlawful in the US or Canada. In the US, however, ICOs are ordinarily viewed as securities and require registration with the [Securities and Exchange Commission]," the site reads. "Singapore hasn't prohibited ICOs however it is one of the nations KaratBars International works in through the shell companies KaratPay and KaratBars Singapore. Singapore regulators closing those organizations down would cripple KaratBars International. The board most likely figure it's best not to take any risks."
To work lawfully in any purview, KaratBars International would need to register itself with the proper securities regulator in that jurisdiction, which the organization appears to need to abstain from, raising doubts.
From one's point of view what is disheartening is that blockchain is a great new technology and companies like this seem to mix their existing business with cryptocurrencies. Knowing full well that the general public does not really understand cryptocurrencies, let alone blockchain or Distributed Ledger Technology (DLT). As a blockchain consultant, one feels obligated to pose some questions anyone thinking of getting involved should be asking.
At the presentation, I heard the presenters say “ Karatbars is giving its members the opportunity to buy gold in small quantities. They also encourage you to save in gold instead of paper money. This can easily be done by buying as little as 0.1 gram of gold or 1 gram - 2.5 gram or 5 grams.”
They said members can keep their gold in Karatbars' vault or ask them to send it to you. Cash gold is the most popular form of buying gold as the gold is embedded in a banknote. 24kt gold 99.9% pure makes it easier for anyone to accumulate wealth.
Karatbars is also involved in cryptocurrency and got their own coins, namely KBC and KCB coins. I'm going to get very deep into this, but the main thing to remember is that they say, “these coins are increasing in value and that it is backed by gold”. whereas and another Cryptocurrency is backed by nothing.
As a self-proclaimed proponent of blockchain and a graduate of Digital Forensics, I feel obligated to say a few words about this presentation on Karatbit or at least as a conscious citizen of this global world of technology users. Blockchain is a magnificent emerging technology that can be harnessed to do so many things. But most importantly it is a technology that provides one single source of truth. If groups are using this single source of truth technology to spread untruths, someone concerned must come out to say something. Blockchain is a technology that can put everyone on an even playing field but it seems very few understand it. The individuals with even the fleeting basic understanding can influence the general public perception of cryptocurrencies. This leads me to ask a great quote from a book called Richest Man in Babylon …. “if you want advice on investing in expensive jewels, why would you go to a butcher?”
The following is what the masses are being manipulated to attach their hopes and dreams. It is that “a further drop in the value of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies has recently left investors nursing heavy losses. Many proponents are holding out for a new breakout “if their digital assets can go mainstream.”
The most important part of that statement is “if their digital assets can go mainstream”. This made me ask some questions about Karatbit and this is what I came up with.
Something is fishy!! Can someone clarify the following?
Claim 1: Gold mine worth $900 million provides security.
Can’t find any official source as proof.
Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyKQIckXyIU
Claim 2: Backed by a gold mine in Africa
Can’t find any official source as proof.
Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5Q3ZvR4b04
Claim 3: Audit report by MM Revisors for a gold mine in Madagascar
Can’t find proof that MM Revisors exists. Not sure if this report was published by Karatbars Int (can’t find it on their official website), but this is being circulated by some investors as if it were.
Reference: https://karatbars-me.webnode.es/\_files/200000070-01d6002d18/audit.pdf
Claim 4: Karatcoin Bank is a fully licensed crypto bank and is situated in Miami
Can’t find proof that they are registered as a licensed financial institute in Miami, Florida.
Can’t find Karatcoin Bank as a registered corporation, but found Karat Coin Corp.
Reference: http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResults?inquiryType=EntityName&searchNameOrder=KARATBANK&searchTerm=Karatbank
Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXip2Fizz5U&t=152s
Claim 5: Not a pyramid scheme
Karatbit describes this as an affiliate program but clearly is a pyramid scheme at best, see links below;
Canada: https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/karatbars-quebec-activities-covered-by-prohibition-orders-514201571.html
Namibia: https://economist.com.na/43874/extra/karatbars-international-is-a-scamsays-central-bank/
Netherlands: https://www.afm.nl/en/nieuws/2014/mei/waarschuwing-karatbars
Claim 6: 100KBC = 1g of Gold at $40 per gram (1 KBC = $0.40) (guaranteed)
Total supply = 12,000,000,000 KBC (can’t find figures of circulating, so using supply instead)
Total gold needed to cover buy back of all coins:
12,000,000,000 / 100 = 120 000 000g = 120 tons (South Africa as a whole produced 139.9 tons of Gold in 2017).
Total money needed to buy back all the coins:
120 000 000g x $40 = $4.8 Billion
Can’t find proof that they have 120 tons of gold in storage (or backed up by the mines as claimed) or that they are at least worth $4.8 Billion to buy the gold?
Taking a more conservative approach:
According to icobench.com, they raised $100 000 000 with their ICO from 60% of the total supply.
Let’s assume the 60% of 12,000,000,000 is in circulation. This equals to 7,200,000,000 KBC.
Total gold needed for the buyback of 7,200,000,000 KBC:
7,200,000,000 / 100 = 72 000 000g = 72 tons
Total money needed to buy back all coins:
72 000 000g x $40 = $2.88 Billion
Loss for buying back the KBC that were sold during the ICO:
$100,000,000 - $2,880,000,000 = - $2,780,000,000
A potential loss of $2,78 Billion!!! Or am I taking crazy pills?
Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgeHjhlMfn0
Reference: https://icobench.com/ico/karatgold-coin
Claim 7: This Forbes.com article gives credibility to the KBC coin
This article was written by a Contributor.
Reference: https://www.forbes.com/sites/joresablount/2019/05/31/10-blockchain-companies-to-watch-in-2019/#308b507e543f
There is no traditional editing of contributors’ copy, at least not prior to publishing. If a story gets hot or makes the homepage, a producer will “check it more carefully,” DVorkin said.
Reference: https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2012/what-the-forbes-model-of-contributed-content-means-for-journalism/
“Blogging for Forbes requires being what is commonly referred to as a "self-starter."
So far, nobody has said, "Um, you can't do that," or, "Oh, my God, no!"
Reference: https://www.forbes.com/sites/susannahbreslin/2011/04/06/how-to-become-a-forbes-blogge#231bb9972862
“Warning over 'scammers paradise' as watchdog reveals victims lost £27m to bitcoin, cryptocurrency and forex frauds last year”
• Some 1,850 cases were reported to Action Fraud, a 250% increase on 2017-18
• Victims lost an average of £14,600 - with fewer than 1 in 20 getting money back
• Investors are often initially told they've made a profit
• They are then encouraged to put in more money - at which point the fraudsters run off with their cash
Potential victims have been warned over bogus online 'get rich quick' schemes as it emerged people lost more than £27million to cryptocurrency and foreign exchange scams last year.
Fraudsters promise high returns to those who invest, according to Action Fraud and the Financial Conduct Authority.
Victims lost an average of £14,600 in 2018-19 and stand little chance of getting their money back.
Reports of cryptocurrency and forex investment scams increased by nearly 250 per cent in 2017-18, from 530 to nearly 1,850.
The scams work by criminals promoting get-rich-quick online trading platforms through social media. Posts often use fake celebrity endorsements and images of luxury items like expensive watches and cars.
Beat the scammers:
These then link to professional-looking websites where consumers are persuaded to invest.
Often investors are led to believe their first investment has successfully returned a profit, and are then enticed to invest more money or introduce friends in return for greater profits.
But the returns stop, the customer account is closed, and the scammer disappears with no further contact.
'Anyone handing over their hard-earned cash should make sure they understand what they're getting into, they've checked it's a legitimate investment, and not rely on hype and excitement from friends or social media.
'Investing isn't a get-rich-quick scheme - and anything that uses fear of missing out or requires you to invest before thinking is best to be avoided.'
Those considering an investment to check the following for tips on how to avoid investment fraud at www.fca.org.uk/scamsmart.
Scammers can be very convincing so always do your own research into any firm you are considering investing with, to make sure that they are the real deal.
'It's vital that people carry out the necessary checks to ensure that an investment they're considering is legitimate.
UK consumers are being increasingly targeted by crypto asset-related investment scams.
Certain crypto assets, like Bitcoin and Ether (also known as cryptocurrencies), are not regulated in the UK. This means that buying, selling or transferring these crypto-assets falls outside FCA remit. The same is true for the operation of a cryptocurrency exchange.
However, some types of crypto-asset products may be or may involve regulated investments depending on their nature and how they are structured. For example, firms that sell regulated investments with an underlying crypto asset element may need to be authorised by the FCA to do so.
In recent months, the FCA claims it has received an increasing number of reports about crypto-asset investment scams. Some of them may involve regulated activities, others don’t, but all use similar tactics.
How crypto-asset investment scams work
Cryptoasset fraudsters tend to advertise on social media – often using the images of celebrities or well-known individuals to promote cryptocurrency investments. In this case, laughably they said KaratBit was endorsed by Barak Obama’s sister. Who is she and what does she know about cryptocurrencies and blockchain? The ads then link to professional-looking websites. Consumers are then persuaded to make investments with the firm using cryptocurrencies or traditional currencies.
The firms operating the scams are usually based outside the UK but will claim to have a UK presence, often a prestigious City of London address.
Scam firms can manipulate software to distort prices and investment returns. They may scam people into buying the non-existent crypto asset. They are also known to suddenly close consumers’ online accounts and refuse to transfer the funds to them or ask for more money before the funds can be transferred.
Action Fraud has also issued a warning on cryptocurrency scams.
How to protect yourself
Be wary of adverts online and on social media promising high returns on investments in a crypto asset or crypto asset-related products.
Most firms advertising and selling investments in crypto-assets are not authorised by the FCA. This means that if you invest in certain crypto assets you will not have access to the Financial Ombudsman Service or the Financial Services Compensation Scheme if things go wrong.
The FCA doesn’t regulate crypto assets like Bitcoin or Ether which are vastly the most recognized cryptocurrencies, let alone KBC, they do regulate certain crypto-asset derivatives (such as futures contracts, CFDs and options), as well as those crypto assets I would consider securities. A firm must be authorised by FCA to advertise or sell these products in the UK – check FCA Register to make sure the firm is authorised. You can also check the FCA Warning List of firms to avoid.
You should do further research on the product you are considering and the firm you are considering investing with. Check with Companies House to see if the firm is registered as a UK company and for directors' names. To see if others have posted any concerns, search online for the firm's name, directors' names and the product you are considering.
If you’ve already decided you want to invest in gold, this might not be a bad company to side with. But if you’re just looking for an opportunity to earn a sustainable income and become financially independent, there are better options out there.
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Questions about forex MLM’s, how they operate and seem to recycle promoters.

I have two questions I was hoping this group could help me with.
(1) There is nothing on this page about the Forex MLM “eaconomy” or at least I couldn’t find anything in a quick search on the info. So my understanding is that these MLM’s are functionally operating as expensive trading platforms and the only reason people peddle it is get the commission? Just off the several Facebook friends I have peddling it, it seems they talk about signals and take direction from a central source. So are the companies shorting / artificially inflating prices within their system or is it actually based on the market? I’m just curious about how it works - clearly having someone without a college degree / 0 credibility tell you what to do with your money is problematic.
(2) I’ve gone down a couple of rabbit holes on these individuals pages and many seem to link back to people involved in several of these scams, often there profiles look ubiquitous despite being different people often involved in different scams (mlms); suits, flashy commodities, cars, may be sitting in nice seats on a plane, vacations, they all look mildly attractive, normally fit and are often posting “business advice”. So are MLM’s paying these individuals to pitch the products at these conferences and functionally they are paid peddlers / influencers? They also often operate their own “trade houses” - no idea why you need a house lol. Also many have a lot of comments / high engagement - and if you go back far enough it’s scary that people haven’t noticed it’s the same post with just a different products. The reason I want to know if these people are paid peddlers is that I think it’s fraud under a current federal statute and (hypothetically lets say) I’m in a position where I can report it / actually have influence on the outcome. I just want more information about these repeat players so I know more about it for any sort of proposal memos.
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My brother is joining an mlm and I can’t figure out how to convince him not to.

This is a repost from a previous post I made from mlm I was told was more appropriate for anti mlm so here it is
He found out about something called “I marketing live” and has been pretty hyped up about since. I didn’t pick up on the hints at first, after coming home from work the first thing he did was talk to our parents about something about making 6-figures. I payed it no mind as he’s always talking about something or another, he has many friends who are modestly successful and I thought he was talking about one of them. However, I was intrigued, as anyone hearing about their brother possibly making that much money would be. Before I could ask him he ran upstairs so I asked my mom what he was talking about. She didn’t seem interested in the topic giving me a dismissive answer, this suggested to me it was nothing to worry about and so I dropped all interest in it for now.
Later that day, maybe two hours before writing, he came downstairs excited jabbering on and on at me like he does almost everyday, usually it’s to tell me to listen to the music he made, but now he was talking about “work”. He mentioned to me how he’ll learn about trading stocks, bitcoin, and forex trading. That’s the first time I was truly suspicious and I began to pay closer attention to his words, and as soon as he said what I dreaded he would I went of on an hour long rant about how this is a horrible idea and how he’ll be scammed out of his money! “ all I need is for 30 people to join and I’ll be set on a path to success”. Alarm bells went off in my head almost instantly and I realized what he was talking about. Glaring with a mixed concussion of rage concern annoyance and saddens a proceeded for the following hour to aggressively demand he stop it immediately. Of course he didn’t listen telling me “ if it fails it fails and I’ll learn”. But i don’t want him to just fail and try again I want him to understand EXACTLY WHY this is stupid , To know EXACTLY WHY this is irresponsible, and finally to know EXACTLY WHY he should NEVER do this again.
That’s where I need help, I don’t know all the terminology and studies to reference to show the financially disastrous nature of these business bitcoin, forex trading and stocks. I know these can make you money but I’m also very spectacle of any reliability to there use as the bases for financing your life. As well as the “network marketing” ie pyramid selling.Of course I’ll do my own research on this and on the company itself but any additional information you could find would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your time.
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Why NLRBES are a valid idea.

Natural Law Resource Based Economies are a type of social and economic system, in which all of the earth's natural resources are the common heritage of mankind, and where goods and services are available without money, debt, barter, or trade. RBEs generally have two goals in mind: upmost sustainability, and the reduction of most scarcities to the point where things can be freely accessed.
How is this achieved?
Through the use of the latest agricultural, automative, recycling, and transport technologies just to name a few, in combination with a circular economics, we can make use of the finite resources we have in the most efficient and sustainable way possible. Am I talking about some far out "pie in the sky tech"? No. There are many technologies we could make use of that exist today such as hydroponics and vertical farming, mass water desalination, and making use of the latest and upcoming recycling tech, renewables, nuclear etc. We would also make use of a computerised "resource management system" that would significantly aid us in making decisions about certain products, and where to distribute them.
In doing the above, pursuing our goal of economic and ecological sustainability, we would achieve what we could call "access abundance". Not everyone could have a 12 car garage, but they could have access to a wide range of transportation, that would be of much higher quality than today. MagLev trains for intercontinental transport, monorails and subways for inner city transport, automated electric shuttles for short distance, etc etc.
There are 6 "tenets", let's say, which define whether a system is a Resource Based Economy, I believe I have touched upon:
Resource management systems and making use of the circular economy, and Access economics.
Now I will talk about another: Localisation
https://cuesa.org/learn/how-far-does-your-food-travel-get-your-plate
It is estimated that on average the American meal takes 1,500 miles to get from farm to plate. This is incredibly inefficient for a number of reasons. Firstly, food travelling that far increase the chance of spoilage, reducing the amount of food that could have been produced or eaten at the other end of the journey. And secondly, food or crops having to travel long distances uses up a ton of fuel or electricity. Not to mention of course, that if it is fuel, a considerable amount of emissions would be released.
Localising production fixes this, because resources are produced and cultivated much closer to population hubs. This has the advantage of people being much more easily able to access goods and resources, since those are now closer. Alot of time, and energy, is also saved by not having to ship cargo halfway accross the land in big gas guzzling trucks; GHG emissions are also massively reduced. One thing you are doing when localising things is increasing energy usage in that area, but scaling up a city's energy production shouldn't be too difficult of a task, especially with renewables.
I'm going to try and fit these much similar things into one section here : open source economics/gift economies/collaborative commons.
NLRBEs on the macro level may seem like some AI making all of the economic decisions according to a learned plan, but on the micro scale things would be a bit different.
The "planning" aspect doesn't take into account interactions between people, we'd use a different system for this- a market, if you will. Not a market of exchange or barter, but a market or ideas. This means people would be able to freely come together to pursue a common goal for that group, the individuals within it, or the wider community. Call them "commons cooperatives" if you want. These companies, free from the burden of money, could pursue anything their heart or mind desired - arts, scientific research, or even cookery to show off their culinary skills. You'd still have pizza parlors, but the way they conduct themselves would be quite different to today. Gift economics is a system of loose reciprocity where instead of trading things with other people, companies gift people the fruits of their labour in return for social benefits, reputation, gratitude, perhaps even friendship. Social life would become more closely tied to economic life, and the incentives of gift economics represent this. This doesn't just mean however that you can be everyone's friend by opening a hot-dog stand, you need to contribute more to people than that. Sure, you could still run the stand if you chose to, but perhaps helping a neighbor with any projects they're doing, providing you have the skills, could build you more social capital.
Open source software and tools are often seen as the pride of the tech industry, and it's not hard to see why - various people contributing and adding on to an already finished product. Open source production is more democratic than proprietary operations simply because more people contribute to a project.
Now, answering criticisms, and why RBEs are a valid idea.
Communism/socialism/whatever:
Unlike leftism, RBEs do not necessitate a revolution, since they have the quality of being able to exist in a closed autonomous system, perhaps only trading with the "capitalist world" for resources, which is the only case where money would be used. Think of it like a really weird Forex - the use of money, to no money at all. Land for RBE "city systems" could be either purchased on the capitalist market, or handed down from nations that have some low value land they don't care about. Once enough of these cities are built and have a considerable population (to the tone of entire cities), we can start demolishing the old cities in order to gather resources and restore the land to its natural state. We progress further from here...
RBEs are not like leftism because they don't have a state whether it's hierarchical (MLM) or horizontal (Annies). Instead, we would have resource management systems take care of the backbone of the economy, whilst people have free association between each other. There wouldn't really be any laws because we would solve the problems of "crime" and disputes in other ways, like creating an environment that promotes civil, peaceful, and cooperative behaviour.
Human nature
As human beings, we have the capacity to be both cooperative and competitive, peaceful or violent, and this mostly depends on our environment. Our environment heavily determines our behaviour (not entirely, we have biological personalities and all that, but what I'm talking about primarily covers our reactions to certain situations), which is shown in various examples from both humans and the animal kingdom. I like to point to examples of chimps and bonobos as a case of how scarcity and abundance affects behaviour and how societies are structured, but a more human example would be comparing somewhere like the US or UK to countries like Denmark and Norway in terms of crime rates in relation to quality of life. Nordic countries are famous for their low crime and recidivism rates and this is, I think, partially attributed to their relatively high standard of living and secure wellbeing. And when you compare this to a country like the US, where alot of people can't even get healthcare and done of their wages don't even cover their basic needs without government assistance, you start to realise why the country has a higher per capita crime rate than Scandinavia.
I'd also encourage you to look up instances of feral children in order to really break down this idea of a set human mentality.
Long story short, humans like abundance, they like security of resources. And as the examples I've given explain (and I shouldn't need to teach you how to use Google), these things make people less violent, and more likely to cooperate with eachother. Yes we have various biological traits that shape our personality and mental state in some cases, but repeat after me.
Environment. Shapes. Behaviour.
Natural Law Resource Based Economies look towards the future to come, and are readily equipped, unlike capitalism, to tackle the problems of automation, the environment, climate change, and so forth. They are a valid idea that has literature behind it, like "The new Human Rights Movement" by Peter Joseph, and "The best money can't buy" by Jacque Fresco. I also believe works by Murray bookchin, although not advocating RBEs, significantly contribute to the idea.
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USI Tech

I wrote this to a friend who attempted to recruit me into USI Tech.
heres my opinion
USI Tech has a lot of similarities with very problematic business models.
its ownership has problematic connections; it operates a multilevel marketing model that relies on the recruitment of new investors; i havent seen convincing proof that their software truly works the way they say it works.
ive found a lot of cloak and dagger having done a couple weeks of research on the company and my conclusion is that
for me personally there are too may red flags to invest. ive consumed a lot of material on the subject of their legitimacy from both sides of the argument. this is a complex question and it has a complex answer.
the objective truth of whether or not the company is a scam will be regarded as a matter of opinion until history reveals itself; as of right now you believe they are an honest enterprise, and i disagree. that is totally fine, we are both friends and we respect eachothers opinions and we want the best for one another; either of us could be wrong and it won't affect our friendship.
for me, the decision to forego the investment came from these red flags:
1.) Who. its hard to get an official document of exactly who owns the company however these are a few names that come up as people who have either seemed to own it or have at one point promoted it, all of which cast shade over themselves: Mike Kiefer, Ralf Gold, Joao Severino, Charles Scoville.
USI Tech is registered in Dubai and while that is not problematic on its own, there are devastating amounts of internet ponzis registered or operating out of Dubai, specifically foreign exchange trading scams.
2.) How. multilevel marketing. i despise MLM, i believe it is a predatory recruitment method that exploits people's hope and greed. while pyramid schemes can make money, very very very very very often the actual money making mechanism is the recruitment of new members and their subsequent purchase investments. even with a really shitty product you can make this go far so long as the hype is strong enough to feed recruitment.
my family was ruined when i was ten after my parents claimed bankrupcy over a zealous series of investments in Melaluca, an organic lotions MLM. this will always affect my bias.
3.) What. USI Tech's bitcoin product, what is it? do they offer a crypto trading software that works like their forex robot? as far as i can tell, there is no direct evidence of the actual trades that their software allegedyly engages in. my bottom line is here i can't come up with any evidence of a tangible product that truly does what they say it does which is problematic because they are offering a ROI which is apparently based on this robot's performance. moreover, if USI Tech is attempting some clever loophole trickery to avoid having registered with the SEC for selling securities, i have no idea what it is and that is alarming.
finally, 4.) Why. ponzi. if you do not know how a ponzi scheme works on a technical level, learn it, it is very simple. a multilevel marketing company out of Dubai that offers a cloaked software product raises supreme concern for me. their shelflife looks to have been extended by having added an anonymous and unregulated currency into the mix.
i don't doubt that at some level they are trying to make honest money, maybe that is what their mining operation is about. if they start offering cloud mining, that will be another red flag.
money can be made in a ponzi, i just believe its dishonest money. the operative is to discontinue reinvestment at a safe time. i cant put my btc in it because i believe it will contribute to the propagation of the business, which i believe to be malevolent.
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for me, the magic is in bitcoin. not a robot that trades bitcoin. not a robot that trades in fiat markets.
i dont even speculate in arbitrage because the magic isnt even in the investment opportunity.
if what they say is true, and there is a robot that can consistently pull value out of crypto markets, then that is an innovative and lucrative achievement, but i don't buy it. if they use a robot to pull value out of forex, then my investment is directly participating in that system of currency that i don't trust.
you're a good dude, and obviously i have no hard feelings about your involvement, you will make money in it even which is great. like i said you can still make money in it and of course its tempting to invest so i might even buy a pack depending on how greedy i get, but my opinion isn't likely to change about the nature of USI Tech until i learn more.
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Mining...ico....forex

❓What is NEXUS Global? ❗NEXUS Global is a new MLM company that offers 8 businesses on one platform. The core business of NEXUS Global is Crypto Currency Mining.
❓ How can I earn with NEXUS Global? ❗ You can select from 12 very competitive BTC Mining packages.
Starting from $ 100
❓What are the terms of mining packages? ❗ Every package has a term of 24 months and starts working 21 days after activation.
❓How can I pay my mining packages? ❗ For the time being you can pay with 5 crypto currencies (BTC, ETH, LTC, BCH, DASH) and bank wire. Additional payment options will be added soon.
❓How can I withdraw my earnings and how long does it take? ❗ For the time being you can withdraw earnings to your Bitcoin wallet which will take maximum 24 hours.
❓ What is the withdrawal minimum? ❗ For the time being it’s 30$ which might change with the implementation of the new NEXUS multi-wallet.
❓ Is there any withdrawal fee? ❗ For the time being the withdrawal fee is 1%. With the implementation of the new NEXUS multi-wallet there will be no fee.
❓ Is NEXUS Global legit? ❗ NEXUS Global is officially registered in Hong Kong. The European headquarters is going to be in Zug, Switzerland. You can download all company documents from the dashboard.
❓Who is the CEO of NEXUS Global? ❗Christian Michel Scheibener.
❓Do I have to refer people to earn? ❗ No. You can earn passively with your mining packages.
❓How much can I earn referring people? ❗ If you refer people you can earn 10% direct bonus and 10% binary bonus (based on your weaker leg).
❓How can I join NEXUS Global? Capetown: Nexus global is a German based company with offices also in Hong Kong as well as in Bulgaria expected to expand to African countries.
Nexus global is a multiwallet business with 8 businesses in it namely cryptocurrency mining, crypto casino, online games, automated forex trading, sport betting. The flagship product is bitcoin mining and its compulsory to have access to other businesses.
Mining packages have a 2 years contract of which they start mining after 21 days from the date of purchase and earn you bitcoins daily. The mining earnings has no fixed daily earnings but the fluctuate depending on the company performance each day as well as the bitcoin value each day.
Packages you can choose from $100 $500 $1000 $3000 $5000 $10000 $15000 And so on up to $50000
The mining speed depends on how much is the value of the package. This simple means the bigger the package the more your daily earnings. The minimum you can withdraw is $30
There is a network side of the business(optional)
Here you can generate up to $35000 weekly payouts on team commissions.
(I) 10% referral commissions for whatever your direct downliner is buying.
(II) Binary team commissions These are weekly payouts every Monday 10% paid from your weaker leg of the business Volume
How Binary works
You build your team by placing one person left and one right and teach them to do the same. As your team grows there will be a weak and power leg of which where there are more sales is your power leg Example left team made $4000 sales and right $5000, the Monday 10% binary payouts from the weaker leg is $400 and the remaining $1000 from power leg is carried over to the next pay cycle.
Your focus is building on your weaker leg. Remember you are not limited to recruit two people but you can get as many as you want and generate spill overs to your downline and everyone benefits from the volume generated from spill overs in your team as long as being binary qualified with at least $50 mining package and two downlines with $50 or more.
Hope this is giving the picture of how it works
https://members.nexus.global/?u=Shehzaad2018
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